Inconvenient Lie: “Other tapes have shown him take credit for the attacks and show he had advanced knowledge of the attacks.” Actually no, Bin Laden denied knowing about it on September 17, 2001.

“I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed,” bin Laden said as the U.S. war on terrorism raged in Afghanistan. “The U.S. government will lead the American people in — and the West in general — into an unbearable hell and a choking life.”

When asked about U.S. accusations of his “collusion” in the attacks in New York and Washington, bin Laden responded, “America has made many accusations against us and many other Muslims around the world. Its charge that we are carrying out acts of terrorism is unwarranted.”

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/?

When asked of his “collusion” in the attacks in New York and Washington, bin Laden responded, “America has made many accusations against us and many other Muslims around the world. Its charge that we are carrying out acts of terrorism is unwarranted.”

http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/9z8hj/when_asked_of_his_collusion_in_the_attacks_in_new/

“”I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to have been planned by people for personal reasons,” bin Laden’s statement said. Asked Sunday if he believed bin Laden’s denial, President Bush said, “No question he is the prime suspect.”"

Exactly so it becomes who has the authority to say what is true correct? Since our government owns the media and most of the weapons in America, then they have the say… but are they correct? Who knows, right? It doesn’t become if you buy bin Laden’s story, it becomes do you buy Bush and Cheney’s story. The record would lead a reasonable person not to believe Bush and Cheney.

President Bush personally asked Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle Tuesday to limit the congressional investigation into the events of September 11, congressional and White House sources told CNN.

He asked that only the House and Senate intelligence committees look into the potential breakdowns among federal agencies that could have allowed the terrorist attacks to occur, rather than a broader inquiry that some lawmakers have proposed, the sources said

Tuesday’s discussion followed a rare call to Daschle from Vice President Dick Cheney last Friday to make the same request.

“The vice president expressed the concern that a review of what happened on September 11 would take resources and personnel away from the effort in the war on terrorism,” Daschle told

President Bush personally asked Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle Tuesday to limit the congressional investigation into the events of September 11, congressional and White House sources told CNN.

They were discussing how the inquiry would proceed, including what would be made public, what would remain classified, and how broad the probe would be.

Graham’s spokesman said the committees will review intelligence matters only.

“How ill prepared were we and why? We are looking towards the possibility of addressing systemic problems through legislation,” said spokesman Paul Anderson.

Some Democrats, such as Sens. Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut and Robert Torricelli of New Jersey, have been calling for a broad inquiry looking at various federal government agencies beyond the intelligence community.

“We do not meet our responsibilities to the American people if we do not take an honest look at the federal government and all of its agencies and let the country know what went wrong,” Torricelli said.

“The best assurance that there’s not another terrorist attack on the United States is not simply to hire more federal agents or spend more money. It’s to take an honest look at what went wrong. Who or what failed? There’s an explanation owed to the American people,” he said.

Although the president and vice president told Daschle they were worried a wide-reaching inquiry could distract from the government’s war on terrorism, privately Democrats questioned why the White House feared a broader investigation to determine possible culpability.

“We will take a look at the allocation of resources. Ten thousand federal agents — where were they? How many assets were used, and what signals were missed?” a Democratic senator told CNN.

Multiple sources confirm that the CIA went out of their way to have Ziad Jarrah questioned by the UAE for suspected involvement in terrorist activities, but somehow he boarded and hijacked a plane on 9/11 in the United States.

CNN) — One of the September 11 hijackers was stopped and questioned in the United Arab Emirates in January 2001 at the request of the CIA, nearly nine months before the attacks, sources in the government of the UAE, and other Middle Eastern and European sources told CNN.The CIA suspected Ziad Jarrah had been in Afghanistan and wanted him questioned because of “his suspected involvement in terrorist activities,” UAE sources said.

The FBI believes Jarrah, a Lebanese national, was at the controls of United Airlines Flight 93, which crashed in rural Pennsylvania shortly after 10 a.m. on September 11. U.S. officials believe the plane’s target was the White House.

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/08/01/cia.hijacker/index.html?

September 11 hijacker questioned in January 2001

Sources: CIA was interested in his travels in Afghanistan

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CNN: “Wife of Solicitor General alerted him of hijacking from plane.” No she didn’t. Oops, FBI. Caught in a lie.

Theodore Olson, a Washington, D.C. lawyer and future Solicitor General, delivered Bush’s oral argument and New York lawyer David Boies argued for Gore.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_v._Gore

http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/evidence/docs/exhibit/BarbaraOlson.png

one call……………zero seconds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjImLL4NnwA&feature=player_embedded

SMOKING GUN: FBI admits 9/11 phone calls faked. Barbara Olson attempted only one call (proof in comment section)… it lasted zero seconds. She had previously been the only person to have stated the hijackers had boxcutters. Her cell phone didn’t work, there were no seat back phones on her plane.

FBI says that Barbara Olsen never spoke to her husband Ted Olsen on 9/11. And the cell phone records released during the Moussaoui trial prove it. Ted Olsen, the man who argued for Bush in the case of Bush v Gore, is a liar and a criminal.

FROM INFOWARS

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Late in the day on 9/11, CNN put out a story that began: “Barbara Olson, a conservative commentator and attorney, alerted her husband, Solicitor General Ted Olson, that the plane she was on was being hijacked Tuesday morning, Ted Olson told CNN.” According to this story, Olson reported that his wife had “called him twice on a cell phone from American Airlines Flight 77,” saying that “all passengers and flight personnel, including the pilots, were herded to the back of the plane by armed hijackers. The only weapons she mentioned were knives and cardboard cutters.”2

Ted Olson’s report was very important. It provided the only evidence that American 77, which was said to have struck the Pentagon, had still been aloft after it had disappeared from FAA radar around 9:00 AM (there had been reports, after this disappearance, that an airliner had crashed on the Ohio-Kentucky border). Also, Barbara Olson had been a very well-known commentator on CNN. The report that she died in a plane that had been hijacked by Arab Muslims was an important factor in getting the nation’s support for the Bush administration’s “war on terror.” Ted Olson’s report was important in still another way, being the sole source of the widely accepted idea that the hijackers had box cutters.3

However, although Ted Olson’s report of phone calls from his wife has been a central pillar of the official account of 9/11, this report has been completely undermined.

Olson’s Self-Contradictions

Olson began this process of undermining by means of self-contradictions. He first told CNN, as we have seen, that his wife had “called him twice on a cell phone.” But he contradicted this claim on September 14, telling Hannity and Colmes that she had reached him by calling the Department of Justice collect. Therefore, she must have been using the “airplane phone,” he surmised, because “she somehow didn’t have access to her credit cards.”4 However, this version of Olson’s story, besides contradicting his first version, was even self-contradictory, because a credit card is needed to activate a passenger-seat phone.

Later that same day, moreover, Olson told Larry King Live that the second call from his wife suddenly went dead because “the signals from cell phones coming from airplanes don’t work that well.”5 After that return to his first version, he finally settled on the second version, saying that his wife had called collect and hence must have used “the phone in the passengers’ seats” because she did not have her purse.6

By finally settling on this story, Olson avoided a technological pitfall. Given the cell phone system employed in 2001, high-altitude cell phone calls from airliners were impossible, or at least virtually so (Olson’s statement that “the signals from cell phones coming from airplanes don’t work that well” was a considerable understatement). The technology to enable cell phone calls from high-altitude airline flights was not created until 2004.7

However, Olson’s second story, besides being self-contradictory, was contradicted by American Airlines.

American Airlines Contradicts Olson’s Second Version

A 9/11 researcher, knowing that AA Flight 77 was a Boeing 757, noticed that AA’s website indicated that its 757s do not have passenger-seat phones. After he wrote to ask if that had been the case on September 11, 2001, an AA customer service representative replied: “That is correct; we do not have phones on our Boeing 757. The passengers on flight 77 used their own personal cellular phones to make out calls during the terrorist attack.”8

In response to this revelation, defenders of the official story might reply that Ted Olson was evidently right the first time: she had used her cell phone. However, besides the fact that this scenario is rendered unlikely by the cell phone technology employed in 2001, it has also been contradicted by the FBI.

Olson’s Story Contradicted by the FBI

The most serious official contradiction of Ted Olson’s story came in 2006 at the trial of Zacarias Moussaoui, the so-called 20th hijacker. The evidence presented to this trial by the FBI included a report on phone calls from all four 9/11 flights. In its report on American Flight 77, the FBI report attributed only one call to Barbara Olson and it was an “unconnected call,” which (of course) lasted “0 seconds.”9 According to the FBI, therefore, Ted Olson did not receive a single call from his wife using either a cell phone or an onboard phone.

Back on 9/11, the FBI itself had interviewed Olson. A report of that interview indicates that Olson told the FBI agents that his wife had called him twice from Flight 77.10 And yet the FBI’s report on calls from Flight 77, presented in 2006, indicated that no such calls occurred.

This was an amazing development: The FBI is part of the Department of Justice, and yet its report undermined the well-publicized claim of the DOJ’s former solicitor general that he had received two calls from his wife on 9/11.

Olson’s Story Also Rejected by Pentagon Historians

Ted Olson’s story has also been quietly rejected by the historians who wrote Pentagon 9/11, a treatment of the Pentagon attack put out by the Department of Defense.11

According to Olson, his wife had said that “all passengers and flight personnel, including the pilots, were herded to the back of the plane by armed hijackers.”12 This is an inherently implausible scenario. We are supposed to believe that 60-some people, including the two pilots, were held at bay by three or four men (one or two of the hijackers would have been in the cockpit) with knives and boxcutters. This scenario becomes even more absurd when we realize that the alleged hijackers were all small, unathletic men (the 9/11 Commission pointed out that even “[t]he so-called muscle hijackers actually were not physically imposing, as the majority of them were between 5’5” and 5’7” in height and slender in build”13), and that the pilot, Charles “Chic” Burlingame, was a weightlifter and a boxer, who was described as “really tough” by one of his erstwhile opponents.14 Also, the idea that Burlingame would have turned over the plane to hijackers was rejected by his brother, who said: “I don’t know what happened in that cockpit, but I’m sure that they would have had to incapacitate him or kill him because he would have done anything to prevent the kind of tragedy that befell that airplane.”15

The Pentagon historians, in any case, did not accept the Olson story, according to which Burlingame and his co-pilot did give up their plane and were in the back with the passengers and other crew members. They instead wrote that “the attackers either incapacitated or murdered the two pilots.”16

Conclusion

This rejection of Ted Olson’s story by American Airlines, the Pentagon, and especially the FBI is a development of utmost importance. Without the alleged calls from Barbara Olson, there is no evidence that Flight 77 returned to Washington. Also, if Ted Olson’s claim was false, then there are only two possibilities: Either he lied or he was duped by someone using voice-morphing technology to pretend to be his wife.17 In either case, the official story about the calls from Barbara Olson was based on deception. And if that part of the official account of 9/11 was based on deception, should we not suspect that other parts were as well?

The fact that Ted Olson’s report has been contradicted by other defenders of the official story about 9/11 provides grounds for demanding a new investigation of 9/11. This internal contradiction is, moreover, only one of 25 such contradictions discussed in my most recent book, 9/11 Contradictions: An Open Letter to Congress and the Press.

NOTES

1 This essay is based on Chapter 8 (“Did Ted Olson Receive Calls from Barbara Olson?”) of David Ray Griffin, 9/11 Contradictions: An Open Letter to Congress and the Press (Northampton: Olive Branch, 2008).

2 Tim O’Brien, “Wife of Solicitor General Alerted Him of Hijacking from Plane,” CNN, September 11, 2001 (http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/11/pentagon.olson).

3 This was pointed out in The 9/11 Commission Report, 8.

4 Hannity & Colmes, Fox News, September 14, 2001 (http://s3.amazonaws.com/911timeline/2001/foxnews091401.html).

5 “America’s New War: Recovering from Tragedy,” Larry King Live, CNN, September 14, 2001 (http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/14/lkl.00.html).

6 In his “Barbara K. Olson Memorial Lecture,” delivered November 16, 2001
(http://www.fed-soc.org/resources/id.63/default.asp),
Olson said that she “somehow managed . . . to use a telephone in the airplane to call.” He laid out this version of his story more fully in an interview reported in Toby Harnden, “She Asked Me How to Stop the Plane,” Daily Telegraph, March 5, 2002 (http://s3.amazonaws.com/911timeline/2002/telegraph030502.html).

7 I discussed the technical difficulties of making cell phone calls from airliners in 2001 in Debunking 9/11 Debunking: An Answer to Popular Mechanics and Other Defenders of the Official Conspiracy Theory (Northampton: Olive Branch, 2007), 87-88, 292-97.

8 See the submission of 17 February 2006 by “the Paradroid” on the Politik Forum (http://forum.politik.de/forum/archive/index.php/t-133356-p-24.html). It is quoted in David Ray Griffin, 9/11 Contradictions: An Open Letter to Congress and the Press (Northampton: Olive Branch, 2008), 75.

9 United States v. Zacarias Moussaoui, Exhibit Number P200054 (http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/prosecution/flights/P200054.html). These documents can be more easily viewed in “Detailed Account of Phone Calls from September 11th Flights”
(http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/evidence/calldetail.html).

10 FBI, “Interview with Theodore Olsen [sic],” “9/11 Commission, FBI Source Documents, Chronological, September 11,” 2001Intelfiles.com, March 14, 2008,
(http://intelfiles.egoplex.com:80/2008/03/911-commission-fbi-source-documents.html).

11 Alfred Goldberg et al., Pentagon 9/11 (Washington DC: Office of the Secretary of Defense, 2007).

12 O’Brien, “Wife of Solicitor General Alerted Him of Hijacking from Plane.”

13 9/11 Commission Staff Statement 16
(http://www.9-11commission.gov/staff_statements/staff_statement_16.pdf).

14 Shoestring, “The Flight 77 Murder Mystery: Who Really Killed Charles Burlingame?” Shoestring911, February 2, 2008 (http://shoestring911.blogspot.com/2008/02/flight-77-murder-mystery-who-really.html).

15 “In Memoriam: Charles ‘Chic’ Burlingame, 1949-2001,” USS Saratoga Museum foundation (available at http://911research.wtc7.net/cache/planes/analysis/chic_remembered.html).

16 Alfred Goldberg et al., Pentagon 9/11 (Washington DC: Office of the Secretary of Defense, 2007), 12.

17 Of these two possibilities, the idea that Ted Olson was duped should be seriously entertained only if there are records proving that the Department of Justice received two collect calls, ostensibly from Barbara Olson, that morning. Evidently no such records have been produced”

http://www.infowars.com/ted-olsons-report-of-phone-calls-from-barbara-olson-on-911-three-official-denials/

“9/11: PENTAGON AIRCRAFT HIJACK IMPOSSIBLE
FLIGHT DECK DOOR CLOSED FOR ENTIRE FLIGHT

(PilotsFor911Truth.org) – Newly decoded data provided by an independent researcher and computer programmer from Australia exposes alarming evidence that the reported hijacking aboard American Airlines Flight 77 was impossible to have existed. A data parameter labeled “FLT DECK DOOR”, cross checks with previously decoded data obtained by Pilots For 9/11 Truth from the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) through the Freedom Of Information Act.

On the morning of September 11, 2001, American Airlines Flight 77 departed Dulles International Airport bound for Los Angeles at 8:20 am Eastern Time. According to reports and data, a hijacking took place between 08:50:54 and 08:54:11[1] in which the hijackers allegedly crashed the aircraft into the Pentagon at 09:37:45. Reported by CNN, according to Ted Olson, wife Barbara Olson had called him from the reported flight stating, “…all passengers and flight personnel, including the pilots, were herded to the back of the plane by armed hijackers…”[2]. However, according to Flight Data provided by the NTSB, the Flight Deck Door was never opened in flight. How were the hijackers able to gain access to the cockpit, remove the pilots, and navigate the aircraft to the Pentagon if the Flight Deck Door remained closed?[3]

Founded in August 2006, Pilots For 9/11 Truth is a growing organization of aviation professionals from around the globe. The organization has analyzed Data provided by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) for the Pentagon Attack, the events in Shanksville, PA and the World Trade Center attack. The data does not support the government story. The NTSB/FBI refuse to comment. Pilots For 9/11 Truth do not offer theory or point blame at this point in time. However, there is a growing mountain of conflicting information and data in which government agencies and officials along with Mainstream Media refuse to acknowledge. Pilots For 9/11 Truth Core member list continues to grow.

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/core.html for full member list.

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/join to join.

[1] Hijacker Timeline – http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=17

[2] Common Strategy Prior to 9/11/2001 – http://pilotsfor911truth.org/pentagon.html

[3] Right click and save target as here to download csv file with “FLT DECK DOOR” parameter.”

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=18405

All 9/11 Airports Serviced by one Israeli owned company – “the incredible feat of hijacking four aircraft without a single arrest at the gate would require the resources of a nation-state.”

From WHAT REALLY HAPPENED WEBSITE

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It’s one of those times when an innocuous comment in an unrelated news report triggers a revelation.In the article at http://afrocubaweb.com/news/israelispying.htm there is the following paragraph:

The point of the article was that ICTS knew shoe bomber Richard Reid was dangerous, but allowed him on board a flight from Tel Aviv to Paris. Maybe they did and maybe they didn’t. But the idea that an Israeli owned company had inside access to the airport used to launch an abortive terror attack brought to mind the strange message Odigo Systems, another Israeli owned company with offices near the World Trade Towers, received that warned of the impending attacks before the hijacked planes had even left the ground.

So, I went back to another story that had surfaced briefly, reported at www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26626 about how at least one hijacker had smuggled a GUN aboard one of the hijacked planes. Even prior to 9-11, getting a gun on board a passenger plane represented a serious lapse of security. I wondered why this story of a gun was being concealed behind talk of box cutters and screwdrivers.

Then I went back to the first article and its mention that ICTS handled security at Logan International Airport, from which two of the 9-11 hijacked planes had departed.

Sure enough, a visit to ICTS’ own web site at http://www.icts-int.com/ confirms that ICTS is in fact an Israeli owned company, and that it sells services to every airport from which the hijacked planes operated, including security, sometimes through wholly owned subsidiaries like Huntleigh USA Corporation.

It has been suggested that the incredible feat of hijacking four aircraft without a single arrest at the gate would require the resources of a nation-state. This is even more true with the revelation that at least one gun had managed to be aboard a hijacked plane. One company had automatic inside access to all of the airports from which hijacked planes departed on 9-11, and to the airports used by Richard Reid, the shoe bomber. An Israeli company. One that Mossad agents could easily find employment with without the management knowing who they were or what their purpose really was.

But one thing is clear. By virtue of the Odigo warning, someone knew enough about the planned attacks to warn Odigo before the planes had even departed the airport gates, yet they did not call the Israeli security company at the airports which could have stopped the flights from leaving.

Think about that one for a while.

Last week’s newly-released FBI documents on flights out of the U.S. after the 9/11 attack by Saudi Princes and bin Laden family members generated headlines about the FBI’s admission that Osama bin Laden may himself have chartered one of the planes.

The truth is approaching quickly.

As details of the passengers on the four hijacked flights emerge, some are shown to have curious connections to the defense company Raytheon, and possibly its Global Hawk pilotless aircraft program. Stanley Hall (Flight 77) was director of program management for Raytheon Electronics Warfare. One Raytheon colleague calls him “our dean of electronic warfare.” [Associated Press, 9/25/2001] Peter Gay (Flight 11) was Raytheon’s vice president of operations for Electronic Systems and had been on special assignment to a company office in El Segundo, California. [Associated Press, 9/25/2001] Raytheon’s El Segundo’s Electronic Systems division is one of two divisions making the Global Hawk. [Intelligence Surveillance Reconaissance Journal, 3/2002] Kenneth Waldie (Flight 11) was a senior quality control engineer for Raytheon’s electronic systems. David Kovalcin (Flight 11) was a senior mechanical engineer for Raytheon’s electronic systems. [CNN, 9/2001] Herbert Homer (Flight 175) was a corporate executive working with the Department of Defense. [CNN, 9/2001; Northeastern University Voice, 12/11/2001] A surprising number of passengers, especially on Flight 77, have military connections. For instance, William E. Caswell was a Navy scientist whose work was so classified that his family knew very little about what he did each day. Says his mother, “You just learn not to ask questions.” [Chicago Tribune, 9/16/2001]

http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a092501globalhawk#a092501globalhawk

A FedEx Express 727-200 Aircraft equipped with a Rockwell-Collins GNLU-930 Multi-Mode Receiver landed using a Raytheon-developed military ground station. Raytheon designed and developed the differential GPS ground station under an Air Force contract for the Joint Precision Approach and Landings System (JPALS) program.

The FedEx Express 727-200 aircraft at Holloman successfully conducted a total of sixteen Category I approaches. After completing a number of pilot flown approaches for reference the aircraft conducted six full autolands using the JPALS ground station. “The consistency of the approaches allowed us to proceed to actual autolandings with very little delay,” said Steve Kuhar, Senior Technical Advisor Flight Department for FedEx Express.

The aircraft was guided by differential GPS corrections, integrity information, and precision approach path points transmitted from the Raytheon developed JPALS ground station. Although the approaches were restricted to Category I, accuracies sufficient to meet Cat II/III requirements were observed.

http://www.spacedaily.com/news/gps-01k.html

That is August 25, 2001. You got 3 weeks before 9/11 they successfully land a 727 and then some of the same employees are on the flights on 9/11 that were highjacked. Then Saudis are smuggled out of the Raytheon Airport two days after 9/11. During this time you have power downs in the World Trade Center and the night before, Bush slept in a Florida Hotel on September 10th, 2001. Raytheon, Saudi Arabia and Bush.

Hypothesis: There are people involved here that were put on those planes to basically ‘kill the people who knew’ about the government’s involvement in the highjacking that day or even possibly knew. And then the saudi’s were flown out of the country before they could be rounded up by the FBI and asked about it.

The primary management and administration of this phased antenna array transmitter for the HAARP ionospheric research facility is by the Air Force (Phillips Laboratory) and the Navy (Office of Naval Research and Naval Research Laboratory). Advanced Power Technologies, Inc. (APTI), a subsidiary of E-Systems, Inc., which is owned by RAYTHEON Corporation, designed and built HAARP. Here is a link to Professor Anthony Ferraro’s Web Page, who was one of the designers of HAARP. The other educational organizations listed as being involved with this program are: University of Alaska, University of Massachusetts, UCLA, MIT, Stanford University, Clemson University, University of Tulsa, University of Maryland, Cornell University, SRI International, and Geospace, Inc. Usually there are representatives from some of these educational institutions at every open house.

http://www.alaska.net/~logjam/HAARP.html

So this is a leap of logic of course, but could the Haarp ‘weapon’ if it exists, helped in bringing down the towers. And is that why there is no evidence to date of any controlled demolition.

300,000,000 americans and 300,000,000 mindsets on this issue. It takes some people longer than others to accept what has happened and even though people want this day to go away, each person has to face up to to the questions at some point. it was a traumatic day in our history, that trauma healing has phases and lots of people are still in the extreme denial phase. Those of us who have moved onto looking at it objectively are still hampered by those who aren’t ready to think about it.

The policies begotten upon America because of that day and the government’s storyline are still in effect.. politically. (politics subreddit)

Marlborough – Oct. 1, 2001 A government-industry team accomplished the first precision approach by a civil aircraft using a military Global Positioning System (GPS) landing system Aug. 25 at Holloman AFB, N.M., Raytheon Company announced today. A FedEx Express 727-200 Aircraft equipped with a Rockwell-Collins GNLU-930 Multi-Mode Receiver landed using a Raytheon-developed military ground station. Raytheon designed and developed the differential GPS ground station under an Air Force contract for the Joint Precision Approach and Landings System (JPALS) program.

The JPALS system is being developed to meet the Defense Department’s need for an anti-jam, secure, all weather Category II/III aircraft landing system that will be fully interoperable with planned civil systems utilizing the same technology.

Raytheon and the U.S. Air Force have been conducting extensive flight testing for JPALS at Holloman over the last three months.

http://www.spacedaily.com/news/gps-01k.html

As details of the passengers on the four hijacked flights emerge, some are shown to have curious connections to the defense company Raytheon, and possibly its Global Hawk pilotless aircraft program. Stanley Hall (Flight 77) was director of program management for Raytheon Electronics Warfare. One Raytheon colleague calls him “our dean of electronic warfare.” [Associated Press, 9/25/2001] Peter Gay (Flight 11) was Raytheon’s vice president of operations for Electronic Systems and had been on special assignment to a company office in El Segundo, California. [Associated Press, 9/25/2001] Raytheon’s El Segundo’s Electronic Systems division is one of two divisions making the Global Hawk. [Intelligence Surveillance Reconaissance Journal, 3/2002] Kenneth Waldie (Flight 11) was a senior quality control engineer for Raytheon’s electronic systems. David Kovalcin (Flight 11) was a senior mechanical engineer for Raytheon’s electronic systems. [CNN, 9/2001] Herbert Homer (Flight 175) was a corporate executive working with the Department of Defense. [CNN, 9/2001; Northeastern University Voice, 12/11/2001] A surprising number of passengers, especially on Flight 77, have military connections. For instance, William E. Caswell was a Navy scientist whose work was so classified that his family knew very little about what he did each day. Says his mother, “You just learn not to ask questions.” [Chicago Tribune, 9/16/2001]

http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a092501globalhawk#a092501globalhawk

AMENDED VERSION: Wide Area Augmentation System Signal Now Available

August 24, 2000

“WASHINGTON, DC – After a successful 21-day stability test of the Wide Area Augmentation System (WAAS) signal in space, the U.S. Department of Transportation’s Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) declared that it is now available for some aviation and all non-aviation uses … The system demonstrated one to two meters horizontal accuracy and two to three meters vertical accuracy throughout the contiguous United States … Raytheon will operate the system for the FAA on a continuous basis”

http://www.faa.gov/news/press_releases/news_story.cfm?newsId=5249

One member having served on Raytheon’s Special Advisory Board is “Project for the New American Century” signatory Richard Armitage.

http://usinfo.state.gov/journals/itps/0900/ijpe/pj52bios.htm

Only 3 weeks after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, a patent was applied for regarding a system that would override pilot control from an autopilot equipped aircraft and redirect such an aircraft to a predetermined destination via pre-programmed autopilot settings. This patent cites the Differential Global Position Satellite research and development conducted by Honeywell and NASA during the mid-1990s.

“”A method for … deactivating on-board control of the autopilot system; directing the autopilot system to fly the aircraft to a landing.”

“One optional feature of the invention disables the aircraft’s communications equipment.”

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser Sect2=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=…

http://www.rense.com/general86/complete.htm

United States v. Zacarias Moussaoui Criminal No. 01-455-A

Prosecution Trial Exhibits

http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/prosecution/flights/P200054.html

(PilotsFor911Truth.org) – Newly decoded data provided by an independent researcher and computer programmer from Australia exposes alarming evidence that the reported hijacking aboard American Airlines Flight 77 was impossible to have existed. A data parameter labeled “FLT DECK DOOR”, cross checks with previously decoded data obtained by Pilots For 9/11 Truth from the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) through the Freedom Of Information Act.

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=18405&pid=10779358&st=0&#entry10779358

A list of names on a piece of paper is not evidence, but an autopsy by a pathologist, is. I undertook by FOIA request, to obtain that autopsy list and you are invited to view it below. Guess what? Still no Arabs on the list. It is my opinion that the monsters who planned this crime made a mistake by not including Arabic names on the original list to make the ruse seem more believable.

http://www.freedomfiles.org/war/noarabs77.htm

And at the same time people hold that very belief, and the belief that ‘Truthers’ and other Bush Haters are just tinfoil hat wearers at the same time.

The upvotes you are getting disgust me, but at least it represents the hypocritical nature of Democrats who so conveniently forget 9/11 while clamoring on like people haven’t been trying to put Bush and Cheney in jail for the past 8 years.

Race baiting and ignorant.

Commence downvote of me though.

nosayso is the problem with the left, they are intelligent but willfully ignorant when it suits them.

Where were you (GOP) for the past 8 years meets where were YOU (Democrats) for the past 8 years in regards to 9/11 research. Where was Pelosi when Bush/Cheney needed to be impeached, but it is the teabaggers fault? Fuck yoo, coward Dems

Democrats are quick to say that nobody complained about Bush for 8 years, but when presented with 8 years of 9/11 and other research to prosecute Bush, they are Bush’s most ardent supporters and apologists. Makes no sense right?

eh? eh? not a bad theory right… it ties every event on 9/11 including the weird discrepancies together… 9/11 was a botched sting operation maybe? thoughts? Let the hijackers hijack the planes and then remote land them and arrest them… but if somebody had other plans and got access to the remote instead… then we got what happened.

The FBI has a history of catching people in the act… was 9/11 no different? Was bush playing dumb to catch these guys in the act and the raytheon remotes didn’t work? Were the passengers aware that the planes would be hijacked and is that why they didn’t try to overcome the hijackers because they thought the govt. would land the planes with the remotes?

everything backs up that theory… how they got on the planes, the fbi’s history of catching terrorists in the act, raytheon employees on the planes, them getting into the cockpit, bush saying he didn’t know about it, all the secrecy, the 9/11 commission being intimidated,

It would explain how they got on the planes, how raytheon employees were on the planes, why israelis were infiltrating agencies and the government diverting Norad. They wanted to remote land the planes and arrest the hijackers, but somebody else got access to the remote.

In 2001, Raytheon’s Contracts declined from 5.2 billion to 4.9 billion from the year 2000, and since 2001 they have increased to 12 billion a year in military contracts.

CNN destroys Obama on allowing Raytheon Lobbyist to bypass his Lobby rules. All of the planes that hit a target on 9/11 were carrying Raytheon employees. Research it.

Isn’t it true that on 9/11/01, the FBI and Bush Administration Brazzenly thought they could remote the planes to safety using Raytheon’s employees and equipment, and people who knew about the sting who thought it might go wrong placed put options while others avoided flying altogether?

raytheon employees on every flight that hit a target, makes sense to me that raytheon was the company technology they were using to ‘bait and trap’ these hijackers like roaches in those planes. Bush and Cheney were probably like, ‘yeah give it a chance’ knowing full well that if it didn’t work they had a back up plan in place, which was deny everything and blame Bin Laden.

The put options can be explained by this also, an investigation not available to the public. If people knew the FBI was going to attempt such a risky sting op, then they would place some put options on these companies and take stock risks if they didn’t believe it was going to work

The warning text messages, the people told not to fly, officials told not to fly… i think there is a ‘in the know crowd’ that is aware that in the days leading up to 9/11, the fbi sting op about to take place was beginning to be leaked out because people were nervous it wouldn’t work.

who knows, but once you prove it is a sting operation gone wrong and they were using the remotes, a whole political firestorm starts and an investigation is inevitable. Us here just have to prove that much, the rest is up to the Attorney Generals and Investigators. I won’t go to far into things i can’t logically piece together.

And you asked, how could they f up a sting 4 times… well that isn’t for us to figure out here, but we CAN agree that it follows logic that the remotes were used to capture these guys like roaches in a trap, or a mouse thinking they got the cheese or something… after that, we don’t need to prove anything else by logic because the professionals will have to reveal the rest of it. They probably can’t though, because the raytheon sting op is probably a state secret or classified because it involves national security or something along those lines. This would explain why no one has come forward yet. We just have happened to logically put 2 and 2 together here.

I would love to ask why this theory has not been put forth before… is it so ‘not obvious’ to assume it or even present it in 8 years of 9/11 truth, a group that has been proven to be led by the government itself? The government loves to move its opponents chess pieces for good reason, but 9/11 truth looks like it turned out to be an illusion to deflect people from figuring out why the raytheon employees were on those flights.

9/11 as a sting operation gone wrong is the best explanation you can give for that day. NOBODY has made this obvious call, because people are too busy blaming the government or supporting it in regards to 9/11… When have you heard this obvious theory? Never. Because the 9/11 truth movement has been infilitrated by the government to push people to prove it was the government’s plan to carry out these attacks… but in essense, the planes were to land safely and the terrorists arrested at the airports (see flight 77 flight path in your research) as in any sting operation they people have to be caught in the act. What went wrong?

yeah, as in “let the remotes land the plane at dullies airport”. Anyone researching 9/11 as much as i have can look at this ‘theory’ i have and apply it to EVERY aspect of the 9/11 story. It fits. But you have to be open minded enough to hypothetically apply it an give it a chance to work ‘in theory’.

it is ‘the lone gunman’ish, but it is using that technology to capture the terrorists. Why has that never been presented as a theory, i think it would be safe to assume that ‘remote controlled boeings’ were built for a reason in the 1990′s and someone at the table had to suggest the ‘great idea’ of using these remotes to capture terrorist hijackers who think they have successfully hijacked a plane

I use these bits of logic…

• the fbi has a history of catching terrorists in the act, as we have seen this year.
• the planes on 9/11 were 1/3 full and if you look at the flight lists you’ll find government affilated employees and contractors, including raytheon employees that tragically died that day in those flights.
• the technology was available and tested in the NORAD drills from 9/4/01 to 9/11/01
• the U.S. government was warned, as we all know, of an impending attack.
• We know that they were monitoring these hijackers for months before 9/11 and monitoring Bin Laden as well, so it is safe to assume they knew where they were on the morning of 9/11.
• The Sting Op theory fits better than any other theory, because the two other theories: 1. The government just messed up or 2.The government attacked itself to go to war… each don’t make complete sense when applied to the facts.
• I also look at the warnings people had with text message, the warnings that the mayor of San Fran had not to fly and i think it was ashcroft who was told not to fly also. Intelligence agencies around the world were warning the u.s. of an attack, and lastly the first lobbyist to bypass the Obama Administration’s “no lobbyist rule” was from Raytheon.
• Now, speculating, you can jam a remote signal using a C130 aircraft. This is just speculation though, i cannot logically say what may have went wrong with the sting op to catch these guys alive and use them as proof to fund the intelligence agencies and go to war with Afghanistan or something to that affect.

• Most of the hijackers resided near cia/fbi/nsa centers prior to 9/11 so they could be monitored.
• The put options could have been put on the airlines by people who knew about the sting op and its potential for failure.
• Bush and Cheney could use either outcome of the sting for their eminent war plans.
• Bin Laden and these guys were being monitored, meaning people knew they were getting on the planes and when.
• NORAD and the FAA may have been out of the loop on this ‘black op’ so they had to be flown out of the area so no planes would interfere with landing the planes safely and catching the hijackers in the act and alive.
• Raytheon, BAE systems and military and other people of interest are on all of the 9/11 flights.
• this removes the question, “why would the government attack itself”. it didn’t in this theory, it just took a risk that went horribly wrong.
• People were warned by text message prior to 9/11, mousaad agents filming the event from Urban Moving Systems may have been tipped off to the sting operation in advance, The Danish PM and other heads of state may have been tipped off to how the U.S. was going to catch these hijackers and people in the U.S. were warned not to fly in the days leading up to 9/11.
• going out into the real ‘theory’, the wtc may have been ‘prepared to fall’ as a contingency plan if the sting op to catch these guys using the raytheon remotes failed.

No they built remote control planes, maybe they were on the planes to fly them from their seats, or hack into the plane from the inside.. like an fbi sting operation to land the planes and arrest the terrorists. But something went wrong and neither the raytheon hackers nor the people on the ground to remote the planes to a safe landing using whatever devices they had on them.

The raytheon employees were visibly nervous the days and nights before 9/11/01, if you read up on it. My theory is the fbi new exactly when the hijacking was, and tried to catch al qaeda in the act… allow them into the cockpit and then remote the planes to saftey. Bait and Catch. Then present them to the citizenry as reason we have to go to war in afganistan. Look at the trajectory of flight 77, if it kept going it would have landed at dullies airport.

Raytheon lost employees on every flight that hit a target.

“Remembering 9/11 Date posted: 09/10/2008*

On this seventh anniversary of the attacks of 9/11, the people of Raytheon honor the memory of Raytheon colleagues Peter Gay, Stanley Hall, David Kovalcin and Kenneth Waldie – and the many others who perished that day. Our thoughts are with them, their families and their friends.

We honor as well our courageous men and women in uniform and all who have served and sacrificed on our behalf. We are dedicated to supporting our servicemen and women with the very best systems and services we can provide.

And we thank our first responders, who day in and day out rush to our aid, putting our needs above their own.

On this anniversary, we join others in reflecting and remembering.”

http://www.raytheon.com/newsroom/feature/rtn08_9_11/index.html

“Flight 11: Peter Gay was Raytheon’s Vice President of Operations for Electronic Systems and had been on special assignment to a company office in El Segundo, Calif. http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/A…

This division is one of two divisions making the Global Hawk. (ISR Journal, 3/02)

Kenneth Waldie was a senior quality control engineer for Raytheon’s electronic systems. http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/A…

David Kovalcin was a senior mechanical engineer for Raytheon’s electronic systems. http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/A…

Flight 175: Herbert Homer was a corporate executive working with the Department of Defense. http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/u…

And for some very strange reasons he was listed for several days as having died in the while working in the Pentagon.

Flight 77: Stanley Hall was director of program management for Raytheon Electronics Warfare. One Raytheon colleague calls him “our dean of electronic warfare.” http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2001/09/12/victim-c…

Charles S. Falkenberg: He worked on “EOS Webster” a mapping system which provides Landsat Images, which are part of the mapping system for the Global Hawk technology. http://web.archive.org/web/20020302091225/http://ivanov…

Raytheon is working on Global Hawk piloltless aircraft program.

Now, if this is not coincidental enough for you: What are the odds that Raytheon also had one office in the WTC2? (AP, 9/11/01) http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/background/tenants.html

It was located in 91st floor in WTC2. Raytheon shared the floor with Washington Group and Gibbs&Hill.

While 13 employees of Washington Group died http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/memorial/lists/by-…

None died from Raytheon and Gibbs&Hill: http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/memorial/lists/by-…

This is rather surprising as after the hit of the second plane only four people survived who were above the 78th floor where the plane hit. http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2001/worldtradecen… “

“Remembering 9/11 Date posted: 09/10/2008*

On this seventh anniversary of the attacks of 9/11, the people of Raytheon honor the memory of Raytheon colleagues Peter Gay, Stanley Hall, David Kovalcin and Kenneth Waldie – and the many others who perished that day. Our thoughts are with them, their families and their friends.

We honor as well our courageous men and women in uniform and all who have served and sacrificed on our behalf. We are dedicated to supporting our servicemen and women with the very best systems and services we can provide.

And we thank our first responders, who day in and day out rush to our aid, putting our needs above their own.

On this anniversary, we join others in reflecting and remembering.”

http://www.raytheon.com/newsroom/feature/rtn08_9_11/index.html

“Flight 11: Peter Gay was Raytheon’s Vice President of Operations for Electronic Systems and had been on special assignment to a company office in El Segundo, Calif. http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/A…

This division is one of two divisions making the Global Hawk. (ISR Journal, 3/02)

Kenneth Waldie was a senior quality control engineer for Raytheon’s electronic systems. http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/A…

David Kovalcin was a senior mechanical engineer for Raytheon’s electronic systems. http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/A…

Flight 175: Herbert Homer was a corporate executive working with the Department of Defense. http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/u…

And for some very strange reasons he was listed for several days as having died in the while working in the Pentagon.

Flight 77: Stanley Hall was director of program management for Raytheon Electronics Warfare. One Raytheon colleague calls him “our dean of electronic warfare.” http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2001/09/12/victim-c…

Charles S. Falkenberg: He worked on “EOS Webster” a mapping system which provides Landsat Images, which are part of the mapping system for the Global Hawk technology. http://web.archive.org/web/20020302091225/http://ivanov…

Raytheon is working on Global Hawk piloltless aircraft program.

Now, if this is not coincidental enough for you: What are the odds that Raytheon also had one office in the WTC2? (AP, 9/11/01) http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/background/tenants.html

It was located in 91st floor in WTC2. Raytheon shared the floor with Washington Group and Gibbs&Hill.

While 13 employees of Washington Group died http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/memorial/lists/by-…

None died from Raytheon and Gibbs&Hill: http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/memorial/lists/by-…

This is rather surprising as after the hit of the second plane only four people survived who were above the 78th floor where the plane hit. http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2001/worldtradecen… “

Same for GM employees, none were on the flights. Yet there were raytheon employees on every flight the hijackers hijacked that hit a target… amazing luck for al qaeda there.

continued from other comment.

Dong Lee, Ruben Ornedo, and Chad Keller all worked for Boeing. Lee also worked for the NSA. Stanley Hall, “the dean of electronic warfare,” (along with Peter Gay, David Kolvacin, and Kenneth Waldie on other flights), worked for Raytheon.

William Caswell was a particle physicist who worked for the Navy. His job was so classified that his family had no clue as to what he did and did not know why he was flying to California.

Charles Droz, LCDR USN Ret, was a software developer for EM solutions (manufacturer of Wide Area Networks).

Robert Penniger worked for BAE Systems, (”an industry leader in flight control systems”), whose Board is comprised of many from the intelligence community. BAE has apparently removed their Board of Directors page, but it list a “who’s who” of high level connections to the CIA, DARPA, and NSA. (See the appendix for a list of outside directors of BAE Systems that were not on Flight 77.)

Robert Ploger and his wife were added “late” to the original CNN passenger list. He is the son of Major General Robert R Ploger USA, Ret, another “flag” link. The other “late” addition was Sandra Teague, a physical therapist at Georgetown University Hospital.

John Sammartino and Leonard Taylor worked at Xontech (missile defense), another company connected to the intelligence community, also with ties to Boeing.

Vicki Yancey worked for Vreedenberg Corp, yet another company connected to the intelligence community. Her father describes her death as a “planned murder.” Her widower works for Northrup-Grumman.

Mary Jane Booth was in a position to know what was going on at Dulles Airport as secretary for American Airlines general manager.

John Yamnicky, 71, Capt USN Ret, was a defense contractor for Veridian who had done a number of “black ops,” according to his son.

The physicians, lawyers, biotech representatives, and “human interest” victims who were aboard, could also provide important clues, but in the interest of space, we will save them for future consideration.

Many readers recall a particular Fox Television TV show called “The Lone Gunmen” which was aired on March 2, 2001 [Download Episode]. In the show, the bad guys control a passenger airplane by remote control with intentions of flying it into the World Trade Center. The villains were a Pentagon insider faction; the motive to inflame the public and thereby legitimate new military budgets and operations. Life indeed imitates art.

It has been reported that some people were warned not to fly that day. One was reported to be Mayor Willie Brown of San Francisco. Another was author Salman Rushdie. The person on that flight MOST likely to be warned was Robert Speisman. He was an executive at Lazare Kaplan, a diamond merchant, and son in law of Maurice Templesman. Templesman was Jackie Kennedy’s long time lover and is highly connected according to Time Magazine. Time also reported about about his “special access” to the National Security Council. He has also “stepped out” with Madeleine Albright.

I attempted on three occasions to obtain a final passenger list from American Airlines. They refuse to give a list and in fact won’t even verify that they gave the first list to CNN. Since the list is in the public domain, I find it curious that they would not take ownership nor provide a current, “correct” list.

Would it even be necessary to “lure” all expendables onto the designated death flights? Why not just grab those you want to get rid of and then slip them into the pile later? Have you seen an interview with the check-in personnel for the flights who can tell us who actually got on any of these flights? Not a chance. In fairness, Washington, D.C. and it’s suburbs draw a great number of contractors for the military and intelligence communities in their normal course of business. It may be mere coincidence that these passengers were all on the same flight; however; the government refuses to release information which would relieve our concerns.

Appendix

List of outside diectors of BAE Systems that were not on Flight 77:

Richard J. Kerr former Deputy Director of Central Intelligence

Mr. Kerr served in the U.S. Intelligence community for 32 years – from September 1960 until March 1992. He started as a country analyst in the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and ended his career as the senior professional intelligence officer in the U.S. government serving as Deputy Director of Central Intelligence.

Dr. William Schneider, Jr. former Under Secretary State for Security, Science and Technology

Prior to serving on the board, Dr. Schneider was formerly Under Secretary of State for Security Assistance, Science and Technology (1982-1986). He served as Associate Director for National Security and International Affairs at the Office of Management and Budget (198l-2) prior to being nominated as Under Secretary by the President.

Dr. Robert S. Cooper former Director, DARPA

Dr. Cooper is currently President, CEO, Director and co-founder of Atlantic Aerospace Electronics Corporation. From 1981 to 1985, Dr. Cooper was Assistant Secretary of Defense for Research and Technology and simultaneously held the position of Director for the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA). As Assistant Secretary, he was principal advisor to the Secretary of Defense on the allocation of Department resources to research, exploratory development and advanced development projects.

General Anthony C. Zinni (Ret) former Commander-in-Chief, CENTCOM

Gen. Zinni was formerly Commander-in-Chief, U.S. Central Command. While in the Marine Corps he held numerous command and staff assignments that include platoon, company, battalion, regimental, Marine expeditionary unit, and Marine expeditionary force command. His staff assignments included service on battalion, regimental, division, base, and service staffs in operations, training, special operations, counterterrorism, and manpower billets. Gen. Zinni most recently served as the United States Special Envoy to the Middle East.

General Kenneth A. Minihan (Ret) former Director National Security Agency; Central Security Service

Lt. Gen Minihan served more than thirty-three years of active commissioned service to the nation before retiring from the U.S. Air Force in 1999. On his final tour of duty, he served as the 14th Director of the National Security Agency/Central Security Service, a combat support agency of the Department of Defense with military and civilian personnel stationed worldwide. As Director, he was the senior uniformed intelligence officer in the Department of Defense. He also served as the Director of The Defense Intelligence Agency.

Robert L. Prestel former Deputy Director, National Security Agency

Mr. Prestel served as Deputy Director of the National Security Agency (NSA) from 1990 – . He was the senior civilian presiding over this Defense Agency whose principal missions are the production of foreign Signals Intelligence and the protection of official U.S. Government communications and information systems.

http://physics911.net/olmsted

Autopsy: No Arabs on Flight 77 By Thomas R. Olmsted, M.D

I am an ex Naval line officer and a psychiatrist in private practice in New Orleans, a Christian and homeschool dad. It troubled me a great deal that we rushed off to war on the flimsiest of evidence. I considered various ways to provide a smoking gun of who and why Sept 11th happened. Astute observers noticed right away that there were no Arabic sounding names on any of the flight manifests of the planes that “crashed” on that day.

A list of names on a piece of paper is not evidence, but an autopsy by a pathologist, is. I undertook by FOIA request, to obtain that autopsy list and you are invited to view it below. Guess what? Still no Arabs on the list. In my opinion the monsters who planned this crime made a mistake by not including Arabic names on the original list to make the ruse seem more believable.

When airline disasters occur, airlines will routinely provide a manifest list for anxious families. You may have noticed that even before Sep 11th, airlines are pretty meticulous about getting an accurate headcount before takeoff. It seems very unlikely to me, that five Arabs sneaked onto a flight with weapons. This is the list provided by American of the 56 passengers. On September 27th, the FBI published photos of the “hijackers” of Flight 77.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology (AFIP), does a miraculous job and identifies nearly all the bodies on November 16th 2001.

The AFIP suggest these numbers; 189 killed, 125 worked at the Pentagon and 64 were “passengers” on the plane. The AA list only had 56 and the list just obtained has 58. They did not explain how they were able to tell “victims” bodies from “hijacker” bodies. In fact, from the beginning NO explanation has been given for the extra five suggested in news reports except that the FBI showed us the pictures to make up the difference, and that makes it so.

Now, being the trusting sort, I figured that the government would want to quickly dispel any rumors so we could get on with the chore of kicking Osama/Sadaam’s butt (weren’t these originally two different people?). It seemed simple to me. . .produce the names of all the bodies identified by the AFIP and compare it with the publicized list of passengers. So, I sent a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request to the AFIP and asked for an expedited response, because we were getting ready to send our boys to war on the pretext that Osama/Saddam had done the deed. Fourteen months later, a few US soldiers dead, many Iraqi civilians pushing up daisies, and I finally get the list. Believe me that they weren’t a bit happy to give it up, and I really have no idea why they choose now to release it.

No Arabs wound up on the morgue slab; however, three ADDITIONAL people not listed by American Airlines sneaked in. I have seen no explanation for these extras. I did American the opportunity to “revise” their original list, but they have not responded. The new names are: Robert Ploger, Zandra Ploger, and Sandra Teague. The AFIP claims that the only “passenger” body that they were not able to identify is the toddler, Dana Falkenberg, whose parents and young sister are on the list of those identified. The satanic masterminds behind this caper may be feeling pretty smug about the perfect crime, but they have left a raft of clues tying these unfortunates together.

The Passengers

In the foregoing, I presented evidence from the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology (AFIP), that there were no Arabs on American Airlines Flight 77. This doesn’t really jibe with the official story, so someone isn’t telling the truth. This list itself is suspect because there is a special group of “bone guys” that are called in whenever the government needs an “adjustment” to their story.

About “bone guys”: No, we’re not talking folks that hang around secret Ivy League fraternities. On May 31, 2002, the Washington Post had this to say about ‘bone guys’:

“…When remains of the Waco dead or 9/11 Pentagon victims or Desert Storm casualties — or most recently Chandra Levy — need to be studied, the bone guys at the Smithsonian are called in. The bone guys read skeletons like intricate topological maps. Sometimes they can make identification from a skull fragment the size of a quarter. They can read race in the teeth and gender in the brow. They can tell you who had an asymmetric nose. They can tell you who may have been a factory worker, because bones grow more pronounced to accommodate certain muscles, and who may have been a weaver or a tailor, based on grooves in the teeth where thread was held….”

In other words, these were the fellows who helped tidy up the government’s story at Waco and are “studying” the Sept 11th remains as well.

By now you have probably heard that many of the “hijackers” named by the FBI are alive and well. The Information Times, an on-line publication, reported that Saudi Arabia’s Foreign Minister Prince Saud Al-Faisal told the Arabic Press after meeting with President George W. Bush on Sept. 20: “It was proved that five of the names included in the FBI list had nothing to do with what happened.”

According to The Orlando Sentinel, the Saudi Arabian embassy confirmed that four of the five mentioned by Al-Faisal – Saeed Alghamdi, Mohand Alshehri, Abdulaziz Alomari and Salem Alhazmi- are not dead and had nothing to do with the heinous terror attacks in New York and Washington. (source: Christopher J. Petherick – American Free Press)

From photos of all of those that perished on that flight, it is clear that none are even “Arab looking.” This seems to rule out Arabs sneaking aboard under assumed names.

If you are familiar with Operation Northwoods (see Body of Secrets by James Bamford or thumbnail description here) then you know that the National Security Agency (NSA) has both the will and ability to orchestrate an “operation” such as Sept 11th if they decided it was for the “greater good.” Not saying that they choose to conduct September 11 attack, but they clearly have the ability. According to Bamford, “Operation Northwoods” was not planned by any “rogue element” but proposed by General Lemnitzer, himself, and then thankfully spiked by President Kennedy. Think also of FDR’s foreknowledge of Pearl Harbor as exposed by Robert Stinnett in his book Day of Deceit. Stinnett actually agrees with FDR’s decision to allow it to happen.

Brush up on the Lusitania hoax, the USS Liberty cover-up, the Gulf of Tonkin fiction, and the Gulf War I falsified satellite photos, etc. if you are not convinced that government officials are capable of stretching the truth (for our own good, of course). It is very hard to keep a secret of this gravity. One possible way to cut down chatter is to eliminate as many witnesses as possible, preferably during the crime itself.

Critics of “conspiracy theorists” have tried to nullify talk of remote controlled planes as being the talk of lunatics. Global Hawk (Raytheon) is a large military aircraft that has flown 7000 miles without a pilot as discussed in this Air Force public affairs article, and is being widely used in the current Iraq war.

They also make large commercial planes for FedEx that fly by remote control as reported by the Associated Press. The “success” of this operation depended on the planes reaching their destination. Would the planners (be they Arab or otherwise) trust poorly trained “pilots” when this technology was at their disposal?

Reported only in a Portuguese newspaper, The Portugal News Weekend Edition (May 8, 2002) , a group of US pilots deliberated nonstop for 72 hours in an independent analysis of the 911 story. The inquiry stated, “The so-called terrorist attack was in fact a superbly executed military operation carried out against the USA, requiring the utmost professional military skill in command, communications, and control.” Captain Kent Hill USAF Ret, a friend of Chuck Burlingame (the pilot of Flight 77), confirmed the ability of flying aircraft from the ground. An ex Vietnam fighter pilot said, “Those birds either had a crack fighter pilot in the left seat, or they were being maneuvered by remote control.”

The following list of passengers was gathered from many sources posted on the Internet:

http://physics911.net/olmsted

Wayne Madsen Report: Barack Obama’s post-graduate CIA employment

I can’t say I was particularly close to Barack – he was reserved and distant towards all of his co-workers – but I was probably as close to him as anyone. I certainly know what he did there, and it bears only a loose resemblance to what he wrote in his book.

fta

Dan Armstrong by the way…

“Obama’s Account of New York Years Often Differs From What Others Say

Some say he has taken some literary license in the telling of his story. Dan Armstrong, who worked with Mr. Obama at Business International Corporation in New York in 1984 and has deconstructed Mr. Obama’s account of the job on his blog, analyzethis.net, wrote: “All of Barack’s embellishment serves a larger narrative purpose: to retell the story of the Christ’s temptation. The young, idealistic, would-be community organizer gets a nice suit, joins a consulting house, starts hanging out with investment bankers, and barely escapes moving into the big mansion with the white folks.””

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/30/us/politics/30obama.html?pagewanted=1

Were the September 11th attacks an FBI/Raytheon Joint Sting Operation gone ‘jammed’ by a third party signal (Israel?), which sabatoged the remote landings of the jets at the airports and pending arrests which would have offered proof to the American people that war with Afghanistan was needed?

•Look up 9/11 commission ‘minders’ on google.

•Look up 9/11 and raytheon.

•Look up FBI investigation into put options (you won’t find it, just a ‘closed case’ like the anthrax attacks case, with a 2 minute explanation at a press conference.

•Look up ‘hijacker remains’, the results of this investigation has not been released to the public.

•Look up the two pieces of evidence that the government uses to blame al qaeda for 9/11 (2004 bin laden video released on the eve of the 2004 us election and the 9/11 commission, both easily discredited by common sense.) There is no definitive proof that 19 hijackers from germany, saudi arabia and the UAE caused 9/11.

•Look up the attempted ‘gold robbery’ on 9/11.

•Look up “we still don’t know to this day why Norad told us what they told us”, direct quote from the 9/11 head commissioner.

On its face you could easily disgard 9/11 as something not to at least look into, but if you do look into the things above, you will have a better understanding that there were more elements at work here, especially at the airports where the planes left from.

Also, if you apply the same devices that intelligence agents apply during interogations to figure out if someone is lying to comments the Bush Administration made about 9/11, they are obviously lying.

Good luck.

Remember, Bush said “no one could have envisioned this happening… no one in our government anyway”, that means he knew about someone in another government envisioning it before it happened, but did not heed the warnings. As far as anything past that, its classified.

It is obvious that the FBI tries to catch people in the act to get convictions, 9/11 may have been a sting operation to try to catch the terrorists in the act, while using raytheon remote technology to land the planes at the aiports and make the arrests, after the terrorists attempted the hijackings.

They could then use that as proof to the American people that a war was needed, but specific jamming devices could have damanged the Raytheon remotes and caused the planes to crash. Where the jamming devices came from (urban moving systems, mousaad, C130 planes) we’ll never know, if this is the case.

But the Sting Op theory is the best theory out there.

Discussion of 9/11 commission letter to Norad regarding the C130 “literally following the plane that hit the pentagon”, talks about a missle and the plane arriving around the same time (or just before to make a dent in the wall for the plane, which would explain the lightpoles and the witnesses).

Original 9/11 commission letter to Norad: “The C130 encountered flight 77 west of the Pentagon and literally followed it as it crashed into the pentagon. This is the first we learned of this aircraft (Norad did not mention it at the hearing). It raises a number of questions…”

I think the word “literally” means a little more here. I’ve heard on videos (of course I will search for the link and evidence so give me a second) that two planes flew over the pentagon. Maybe literally means that it “literally” followed it in its flight path.

http://www.sheilacasey.com/2009/04/new-research-contradicts-pentagon-911-story.html

This could be why the flight path’s are in dispute… because there were two flight paths, two planes flew over the pentagon and i’m hearing speculation that one of them fired missles into it. Speculation though at this point.

One scenerio could be that the airliner flew in and the cargo plane shot some missles into it to finish the job. Wow, this is fucked up.

“Incredibly, once Ranke explained that 13 witnesses had all placed the jet at the north side of the Citgo station, on a trajectory that could not have knocked down the five light poles, England changed his story and declared that he was not where all the photographs show him to be, but actually well north of Columbia Pike – where no light poles were knocked down.

Ranke showed England numerous photos of himself, his damaged cab and the downed light pole on the bridge over Columbia Pike. Even faced with incontrovertible evidence of his exact location, England resolutely maintained that pictures don’t always tell the truth and that the accident with the light pole had taken place much further north.”

Could it have been a missle fired by the cargo plane to land in the pentagon at the SAME time as the airliner hit, to soften the blow of the airliner so it would penetrate the walls (and leave no evidence).

Imagine the flight hitting the pentagon at the same time a missile did. (or near the same time). People would see the airliner, but would miss the missile, it happened at once?

Holy shit.

Original 9/11 commission letter to Norad: “The C130 encountered flight 77 west of the Pentagon and literally followed it as it crashed into the pentagon. This is the first we learned of this aircraft (Norad did not mention it at the hearing). It raises a number of questions…”

Which could account for there being no video of the plane hitting the pentagon, because the pilot may have parachuted out of it.

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“Real people have known addresses. But the current whereabouts of Eddie Shalev is unknown. As reported by David Griffin, a 2007 search of the national telephone directory, plus Google searches by research librarian Elizabeth Woodworth, turned up no trace of him. A LexisNexis search by Matthew Everett also came up dry.[35] Recent searches by Woodworth and myself indicate that an “Eddy Shalev” resided in Rockville, Maryland as recently as 2007. However, the associated phone number is no longer in service. The 9/11 memorandum raises the possibility that Shalev may have returned to Israel.”

Ed Shalev wasn’t the only Israeli to escape to israel. Urban moving systems did also.

“PLYMOUTH — Two men whom police described as Middle Eastern were detained in the township by federal imigration authorities after being found with detailed footage of the Sears Tower in Chicago. Plymouth Police encountered the men after an officer responded to Pizzeria Uno on the 1000 block of West Ridge Pike at 2:40 p.m. Thursday for a report of illegal dumping, according to reports. A manager there advised the police officer that a tractor-trailer was observed backed up to the dumpster at the rear of the restaurant. The manager noticed a freshly dumped pile of furniture adjacent to the dumpster, according to police. The manager confronted the vehicle’s operator, a Middle Eastern man, police said. The man, who later identified himself as Moshe Elmakias, 30, denied that he did anything and fled the scene, heading west on West Ridge Pike, according to police.

The manager was able to provide township police with the Florida registration number of the tractor-trailer and said that a sign posted on the side of the vehicle read “Moving Systems Incorporated” and included a phone number, police said.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/sears.html

“Five Israelis are arrested for “puzzling behavior” related to the WTC attacks. Shortly after an FBI lookout bulletin was issued for a van with the words “Urban Moving Systems” written on the side, officers with the East Rutherford Police Department in New Jersey stop the van after matching the license plate number with the one given in the bulletin. According to the police report, Officer Scott DeCarlo and Sgt. Dennis Rivelli approach the van and demand the driver exit the vehicle. The driver, Sivan Kurzberg, does not obey after being asked several more times, so the police physically remove Kurzberg and four other men from the van and handcuff them. They have not been told the reasons for their arrest, but Kurzberg tells them, “We are Israeli. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem.” Again before the police have made any mention of the 9/11 attacks, another one of the arrested men says, “[W]e were on the West Side Highway in New York City during the incident.” In fact, it will later be determined they were on the roof of a building at Liberty State Park, watching and videotaping the first crash into the WTC (see Shortly After 8:46 a.m. September 11, 2001). [Bergen Record, 9/12/2001; Ha'aretz, 9/17/2001; CounterPunch, 2/7/2007]“

http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=urban_moving_systems

Bush’s Government Kooks intimidated the 9/11 Ommission with agents called “minders” who sat in and minded commission interviews and sometimes even answered questions for those being interviewed. Nice investigation, no really…

“As a result, witnesses have not responded to our questions.” It doesn’t matter how many times Fox News plays the Hannity 9/11 commission is truth, 9/11 families special… the commission was intimidated by the Bush Administration and did not get the truth.

‘One minder “acted as a participant,” “responded to inquiries” and “consulted with” the interviewee. She took verbatim notes in all three interviews she attended, doing so while sitting next to the interviewees in two of them. In addition, in one interview she “sighed heavily repeatedly.”’

“9/11 has been investigated but the conspiracy theories haven’t stopped. They will never stop until the truthers see an investigation that agrees with their theories.” Ok, so ‘minders’ sat in on the interviews and there was an agreement on its ‘scope’ between Bush and the Commission, that’s cool?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/13279605/911-Commission-Memo-Executive-Branch-Minders-Intimidation-of-Witnesses

Ok, maybe this is your first time on the internet or something, but my other comment in this thread contained this link. Bush had people at the interviews intimidating them, called ‘minders’… that completely invalidates “The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks on the United States”. It also says there that the commission and the executive branch “agreed on the scope of the investigation”. Those are the 9/11 commissions words, not mine.

Learn a thing or two.

“You don’t know it yet and it’s likely that the information will ever filter through your psychosis.”

Once again, what you need people to ‘know’ and what the truth is are two different things. To force people to ‘believe’ something without having the facts behind it or having a sham investigation behind it is the actual psychosis. Only a mentally challenged person would believe the 9/11 commission, as you call it, was not a joke… that is based on the 9/11 commissions words against ‘minders’, not my opinion.

Have an independent investigation, or are you afraid to? To big of a area of coverage for the independent investigation, isn’t that right? No bush and cheney there to save you anymore so you take to the internet to save yourselves. The truth wins in the end, don’t ever forget that.

No where have I mentioned opinions about anything that happened on 9/11, i have criticized the investigation in the post. that’s it. If you want to make it obvious that you wish for the conversation to go into the muddy waters of opinion you are doing a great job. But on its face, the investigation was a joke, and we don’t have a legitmate one to this day. What will it reveal? Not sure, but it might be worth investigating 9/11 for real at least once… without minders there to babysit.

You have no idea what everyone else believes about anything, you are one person at a computer.

If that is not the final word on the matter, where is the second word? 9/11 is under the rug. As soon as NIST needed to revise their report, their credibility was out the window and showed they didn’t include all the facts or get it right. I could have done a report too, but if someone says its wrong and i’m affiliated with the government who is in question, i have no credibility. You have to be dumb to not understand that.

A independent of government investigation has not been done.

Having the ‘scope of the investigation’ agreed upon by zeilkow and bush is a joke. Once again, dumb to believe it was thorough or even had the balls behind it to look into it on that high level.

And I beg to differ, the truth will win when a independent investigation without government minders there reveals all the facts from witnesses that may have been intimidated the first time by those ‘minders’.

Seek help growing a spine.

You also can’t bring yourself to type the word ‘minders’ or acknowledge their existence. I win.

Memo shows proof that the Bush Administration had people (minders) sit in on the interviews conducted by the 9/11 commission to intimidate and, in some cases, answer questions for the witnesses directly. Nice investigation.

(n) minder (someone (usually in totalitarian countries) who is assigned to watch over foreign visitors) “I turned around and there, a few hundred feet away, was our government minder, Li Wong Su.”

“TRIPOD had originally been scheduled to take place on September 12th, 2001, at Pier 92.” The Office for Domestic Preparedness was assigned to Dick Cheney by George W. Bush on May 8, 2001 and had a role in this bioterror drill turned 9/11 command center in NYC a day earlier.

So whenever these people got there, monday or tuesday (some may have arrived before that) it is either evidence of pre-planning by cheney or a sheer coincedence that FEMA had teams on the ground ready to go by ‘chance’.

According to a May 22, 2002 Press Release from the NYC Office of Emergency Management, the TRIPOD, or ‘Point-of-Dispensing’ drill, was successfully held that day. The Press Release states:

“TRIPOD had originally been scheduled to take place on September 12th, 2001, at Pier 92 – which ironically had served as the temporary home of OEM shortly after the terrorist attacks on 9/11.”

The release also mentions that the TRIPOD exercise is supported by “The Office of Justice Programs, through the Office for Domestic Preparedness”. The Office for Domestic Preparedness was the effort assigned to Dick Cheney by George W. Bush on May 8, 2001. Although reports indicate that Cheney never convened any meetings of this Task Force prior to September 2001, it seems that there must have been some sort of planning involved with the organization and scheduling of Operation TRIPOD for September 12, 2001. With all of the unpleasant news of 9/11, it must have pleased Cheney that the scheduling of this drill made the pre-assembled emergency team immediately available to New York City. Who would have thought?

Major questions exist as to why FEMA would deny being in New York City prior to 9/11 without mentioning the 9/12 bioterror drill. These questions must now be addressed as the initial suspicions of those who learned of the Tom Kenney statement have been clearly validated. The coincidental presence of a large FEMA team in NYC at the location, Pier 92, which became the Command Center for the entire emergency operation is disturbing. An alert press and a legitimate 9-11 Commission should have raised this issue long ago.

September 11 was going to be a busy day at the OEM. Staff members arrived early to prepare for Operation Tripod, an exercise that would test the plan to distribute antibiotics to the entire city population during a bioterrorism attack.

July 25, 2001 – “Yesterday was also the beginning of a 90-day transition period in which control will move from the Port Authority to the partnership of Silverstein Properties and Westfield America.” So lots of things moving in and out of the buildings?

http://books.google.com/books?id=E-AFhs0RrKIC&pg=RA1-PA279#v=onepage&q=&f=false

‘In January 1998, Mafia member Ralph Guarino, who had gained maintenance access to the World Trade Center, arranged a three-man crew for a heist which netted over $2 million from a Brink’s delivery to the eleventh floor of the World Trade Center.[86]‘

So the Mafia while the port authority was there, managed to get passed security, but trained intelligence/military/al qaeda couldn’t have gotten passed during the transition period between the PA and silverstein properties? That is exactly when they would try it

See this transition? Then look at the transition effect of NORAD drills on 9/11… things moving around… things go more unnoticed… hey where does this box go… who are those workers over there moving things around… old security out, new security in…. this is all unrelated to the towers falling? The sale of the twin towers is completely unrelated to 9/11? Completely? C’mon, any rational person can see what was happening here.

Madoff 2? Silverstein, Jew, says ‘he was referring to’the firefighters’ when he said “pull it” in regards to building 7… Problem: Firefighters were already out of the building.

Passport survives Crash and Collapse, found by FBI a few blocks away. Significant piece of evidence. Wait, how would they know it was evidence though, the 9/11 attacks happened a few days before and the 9/11 report was years later.

The 9/11 hijackers obtained 13 driver’s licenses (two of which were duplicates) and 21 USA or state-issued identification cards. So why would they have their passport on their person during a domestic flight, easily available for the FBI to find on the street after the planes entered the WTC?

The “Arab looking hijackers” the 9/11 phone calls describe could have been agents from Israel impersonating Arab men, with fake passports. Unless someone here can verify the remains of the hijackers. Oh wait, you can’t do that because the FBI won’t let you.

If someone had gained access to which Muslim’s were being monitored by the FBI at the time, could the 19 hijackers on September 11th have used fake passports with these names?

“Chertoff is “as tough on terrorists as he was on the Democrats in the Whitewater investigation,” oh, except for when he let Urban Moving Systems flee the country…

“‘To the best of my knowledge, my client Urban Moving Systems and Dominik Suter are not targets,’ said attorney Jay Hamill of Jersey City. ‘This is an informational situation. We’re cooperating completely and have objected to nothing they’ve requested.’”

“Dominick Suter, closed his business days after the Sept. attacks and returned to Israel. He was in such a hurry that some of Urban Moving System’s customers were left with their furniture stranded in storage facilities.”

Urban Moving Systems was run by Mossad out of New Jersey in 2001, the Anthrax letters were mailed from New Jersey, the Recent Corruption arrests were Rabbis in New Jersey, put two and two together on why the investigation is a mess, its a cover up, we know who it would lead to.

I’ll bet Michael and Benjamin Chertoff know a good reason why the wikipedia page for Urban Moving Systems is so undetailed

“What authorities have not elaborated on is the connection between the confiscated Sears Tower video that was found in Pennsylvania and the antics of Urban Moving System’s employees.”

Times Online in November 2001 regarding the gold under the WTC – “At first police believed the terrorist attack was an attempted gold robbery.”

“The sources said the gold was found in a delivery tunnel under 5 World Trade Center.”… oh ok … wait… why was it in the delivery tunnel on September 11th?